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Trip notes from carp fly fishing trip by two Newcastle Fly Rodders club members.
By Richard Carter


Bill Garamszegi and I put in a little prep time at Lake Liddell the Sunday before the Newcastle Fly Rodders annual August 'Carp Bash' club outing to the same place. Bill was running a little late (a longer drive time wise then I told him) so I fished a couple coves close to the place we would meet. It was definitely not preplanned to get some hotspots to myself before Bill arrived, as it was a very frustrating half hour. I had fish tailing all around me in sizes from 6 pounders to 10 plus pounds - some of those tails waving in the air were HUGE!

Trouble was I didn't have my carp fly box on me, I had lent it to Bill the Friday before after an evening saltwater session at Wanda Head, Nelson Bay. This so he could make a few copies of any flies that took his fancy for the August club outing. As I also forgotten my trout nymph box, the only flies I had on me were estuary flies. Now these crazy Charlie variations and whiting bloodworm patterns have worked in the past on carp but this time they were not at all interested. Very frustrating twenty minutes but a good start in fish numbers and size wise for the day, if a little short on success.

Once Bill and his wife Corrie arrived around the back of the Lake Liddell in the area I normally fish, due to the wind direction we headed in an anti-clockwise direction on the dam along some steep banks and spotted for each other due to the weather condition of overcast skies, drizzly rain and a slight wind making polaroiding very hard from water level and a little algae on the surface in a few places didn't help either. Still lots of large fish in packs, of five or more, were cruising inside of the weed beds. While right out wide on the far side of the weed beds were large 'rafts' of fish (packs or schools of them). Easily seen broaching the surface and I think very focused on pre-spawning activities given lots of mouthing motions and shouldering in close to each other. At least an acre or so of densely packed large fish - that's a lot of baby carp for next year once they breed - mores the pity, will be better once stocked bass fingerlings can use the baby carp for food. Bill went off round the next corner and I targeted some of those sex crazed fish on the far side of a close in weed bed just at the limit of my casting range for no result.

Having not heard from Bill for a while I went looking for him while changing flies from the orange head nymph to a beadchain nymph. I found him a hundred yards away. Here he was, his 5w fly rod bent severely out of shape and one huge mother of a carp on the end of his line. He had been whistling for a while trying to get my attention but I hadn't heard him given my focus on other things (like trying to catching one for myself). I hurried over, climbed down the steep bank, hopped in the water and gaffed his fish, which was far too large for his small trout net he carried on his back.

Now was our young Bill pleased with his efforts or what!! His largest fish to date of any species on fly and all on a five weight outfit. He enthusiastically told me about the sighting of the lone fish and the few careful presentations before it took the beadhead black nymph - not a bad size for his first carp either. The fish was cruising the inside of a weed bed and visibly feeding. A very close to hand fight within only fifteen feet of the bank at all times. Lots of fun for Bill I am sure. He had to have a picture to send to a mate of his in Victoria, who according to Bill will be very jealous!

We continued along the steep banks scaring off a few fish every now and then with poor presentations or looking for fish in the distance instead of those at our feet as well (me particularly - I always fish far too fast). We then waded along some 'firmish' backwater mud flats due to the extensive plant growth on the shoreline. Here I spotted a small fish in very shallow water and I began leading the fish as it fed along angling away from me. The fly used was a beadchain nymph - a dark one with dubbing from a hare's mask - size 12 swimming nymph hook Mustad 80150BR, similar except for hook to the one shown here.

Still unaware of us after multiple presentation by me, it headed in Bill's direction, so left it to him (dam fish! some of those presentations were perfect for a change as most times I land the fly on their heads). Then before Bill could even cast at that fish another fish materialized only two rod lengths away right in front of me, being almost stationary I hadn't seen it so closely did its colourings match its surroundings. Its feeding, pulsating mouth the eventual give away of its presence. One cast in eight inches of water, a foot in front of its nose, a pause to let the fly sink, a small twitch of the fly, the fish moves forward, a pick up motion by the fish is seen, a smooth firm strip strike and a solid hook up was the result. This fish was only half the size of Bill's but what a spirited fight. It went ballistic in the shallow water. It even made a halfhearted attempt at a jump. I was getting worried after two missed gaff shots by Bill, as my tippet had multiple wind knots in it (must learn to cast better or at least replace the tippet material more often) But he got it right with the next gaff shot and off we went to the shoreline for photos and disposal.

We waded along and fished the next two coves resulting in a few more scared off fish and a five foot eel that thought Bill's legs would be an interesting place to visit - much to Bill's displeasure. I have never seen so many big cruising eels in one day, all four to six feet long, all over the lake and lots of them. Around the middle of the day we went back to a nice peninsula overlooking the lake for a rest and some food. Out on the water were three boats, all typical sport fishing rigs, better yet all were fly fishing. Looks like a few more converts to the joys of carp fly fishing. The fish were there but probably still in pre-spawning mode and not as focused on feeding as the fish inside the weed beds. Their blind casting of the outer edge of the inshore weed beds gave no results that we saw in the half hour or so of watching them (I did hear a 'yahoo!, yehaaa!' later in the day, so know one at least of them eventually got one). Never got close enough to find out who they were.

We then went back to the cars and dumped any extra lunch stuff plus other gear now deemed not needed that were so 'must have' or 'just in case' earlier in the day. Man those back packs get heavy after a while - you really only need a gaff, your rod, some spar tipper/leader material and a couple of boxes of flies (nymphs and globugs). We then headed around the shoreline of the lake in the other direction. This area of the lake is much shallower with extensive flats covered by only inches of water tapering off to about 3 feet in depth before the first lot of weed beds. The whole area is covered with small pot holes from the feeding habits of the carp. We would walk the bank looking for the clouds of mud that signalled another feeding carp or spot those light coloured rubber lips extending and retracting as the carp would spit out a mouthful of mud and then eat the food morsels exposed. We cast small dark nymphs into the clouds of mud and then slowly strip the fly out. Out of the mud cloud would come a carp chasing the nymph fly - very exciting fishing when they chased the fly instead of taking the fly in the mud cloud.

Time lost its meaning as I moved forward around the shoreline of the lake scanning the shallow water or wading the firm flats looking for actively feeding fish, two hours went by in a flash. A tailing fish would focus our attention, then we would stalk the fish, present the fly and feel, sometimes see, the take. Bill got busted off on one nice fish he sight cast to. I got done too, on a huge fish worse of all, right at the moment of saying to Bill I would not need any help to gaff this one (wind knots again??).

Some of the fish were right at the water's edge amongst the drowned weeds with their backs out of the water. It was immensely enjoyable to stalk the exposed fish, present the fly and hook the fish in just inches of water. Then to fight a strong fish in shallow water, during which many times I was well into my backing. You would have them in all submissive and then they would be off again as soon as they saw Bill or the gaff (scared off by either the gaff or Bill - could not really tell which but would put my money on Bill).

I haven't focused my fishing effort or concentrated so hard on catching sighted fish for a long time (it lit the fly fishing fire again - just what I needed after a few poor winter months fishing wise). I just love sight casting to fish in shallow water - can never get enough of it regardless of the species. Think about it for the moment… If the words 'trout' or 'permit' was used instead of 'carp' in the above trip notes you would all be drooling and screaming to go on a trip only an hour or so away - but mention the word 'carp' and your fish-racism takes over. That's not to say I would pass up on a trout or bass outing for a carp one, just that they are there, they are not too far away, they readily take the fly and there are no closer shallow water sight fishing options available at this time of year, at least with fish this size

Yes, they stink. Yes, they taste foul on a plate. They also are not good for natives species but come on guys this is still fly fishing for selective hard fighting fish in shallow water and it helps our native environment. I can't wait for the August club outing. A report on which should be in this newsletter somewhere. With daylight saving time here soon (27th August) it will give me plenty of time to head there after work and get in a few hours fishing before sunset. Anybody thinking of heading up there for a carp session give me call or an email. I don't need much of an excuse if its got scales and fins I'll be in on it. So many opportunities, so many fish - so little time! That reminds me the mullet season should be starting soon too (flathead as well).

Ain't life grand being a Fly Rodder! So many local species to choose from and they all take the fly.

Picture: Dusk reflected on Lake Liddell

Now a few thoughts on fly fishing for carp
Reasons Why Carp are fun on fly?

  • Lets look at their attributes:
    • Willingly take the fly with not as many rejections as with a hesitant old hook jawed brown.
    • Readily available to most of us, so why not
    • All the attributes of other highly prized sportfish like bonefish for example -
      • Skittish with excellent eyesight of motion around them (i.e. you casting)
      • Tailing - and what fish tail exposed out of the water doesn't send a fly fishers heart racing.
      • Cruising - this how most of us see them
      • Schooling - schooling fish sees more opportunities
      • Sight casting opportunities - leading those cruising fish, cast to tailing fish,
      • They will also take the dry fly at times
      • Fights long and hard with getting too dirty

As long as they don't go back in the water fly fishing for them is also good for the eco systems. A point of interest that was recently highlighted on several items on local fishing internet chatboards but not recommended by most aussie anglers (excluding some relocated Europeans and most of them coarse anglers) - putting carp back in the water is not an offence. Even so once netted or gaffed kill them quickly and dispose of the carcass responsibly. There will always be plenty of carp, the same cannot be said for our native species.

I look at carp fly fishing this way, carp are here so lets make the most of them. Our country and some its past (and present) practices have degraded our rivers systems to such a level our native species cannot even breed let alone survive. Carp have slipped into a niche our fore fathers have created and some current irrigation practices maintain. They have made a home in water most fish would die in. Their presence does make it harder for our native species to increase in numbers. The next best thing is to increase stocking of native species, caring for our freshwater environment via Landcare and other groups and to target the carp. At least till the balance is more in favour of the native species, who with their aggressive feeding habits can more then hold their own once the balance is in their favour.

Given the fun you can have catching them, what a great way to help our native fish. Dave Whitlock (American fly fishing icon) calls them the "Golden Ghosts" and holds them in high regard as a sportfish. He and a lot more prominent world fly fishers are coming 'out of the closet' so to speak and speaking up about their secret pleasure in targeting and capturing carp. Such is there value for sight fishing, a practice species for more highly valued sportfish and just for the fun of it. Why not see how much fun they can be before you write them off as a waste of time.

Suggested Equipment
9 - 10foot rods anywhere from 4 - 8 weight depending how long you may wish to fight the one large fish that may take your fly offerings. You could get by most of the time with just a floating line and a standard tapered leader. There will be times when the most delicate of presentations are required for success, long leaders, double tapered lines, but just around the corner will be an easier target. You will need backing when fishing lakes as while one out of ten trout might take you into your backing, 1 out of three carp will see your backing getting quite a stretch. A willingness to use strong tippets and straight rods hand lining techniques on the bigger carp is sometimes required. Depends on your fly fishing ethics and if they apply to carp but what ever setup the carp will provide plenty of activity. If in any doubt just use what you would normally use for lake trout fishing or estuary swoffing. You will have the setup for 90% of the carp situations you may meet.

Suggested Flies
Flies can be numerous, but brown, olive and black nymphs 10, 12 and 14 will do most times. Simple nymphs made from 5 -6 strands of peacock herl twisted into a rope with some copper wire, wrapped to form a tapered body with a large thorax will do the job if that's all you. Damsels and even small baitfish streamers have been known to take their share of carp. Shrimp, scud and water boatman would be successful too. Globugs, corn kernel and bread flies catch their far share too, especially when berley of a similar size is used. Lets not forget imitative flies of the local food forms - San Juan worms, New England Yabbies and snail patterns.

Main method I use - at Lake Liddell and most other carp locations right across the east coast from the Logan River, QLD to Swan Reach o n the Murray River in SA.
The method is casting floating lines with standard leaders and tippets to selected polaroided fish or to spawning packs. Whatever you would use for your normal setup will work nothing fancy required. I have more success on the polaroided fish then the casting of your fly in to the melee and hope a spawning fish would swim into the path of our flies. I mostly used fluoro orange globugs, bread flies or bead change nymphs. Some globugs were soft, fluffy and about 8 - 10mm in size. But mostly I use firm 5-7mm pompoms from Spotlight (only 5cents each) on straightened size 12 Mustad 540's with small beadchain eyes, this so the sink rate was faster (method - tie in eyes, a little thread bed along the shank, a touch of superglue and slide on pompom over hook point till pressed against eyes - too easy! See examples below).

Areas berleyed earlier hold more fish, at these we would catch (or annoy) a couple of fish then visit another bay giving the berleyed area time to calm down before getting amongst them again. Berleying with a mixture of bread, creamed corn and water twenty-four hours earlier can result in cricket score numbers of banked fish. Another method used effectively by Newcastle Fly Rodder members at each year at the clubs August carp bash is applied in the deep water sections of the lake. Basically berleying heavily then with a globug or bread fly (or two flies) suspended under a strike indicator. Then just watch the strike indicator for the take. A little too much like float/bait fishing for me I like to hunt my car in shallow water and sight casting to them

Carp are a great way to teach beginners on how to sight cast to fish, fight strong fish and hopefully get a result for there first outing. My kids loved it, especially when they can sight the fish, stalk it cast to it and catch them on flies they can easily tie themselves. With so many targets if they stuff up one fish there is another on twenty meters further along the mud flats. They are not easy but if you get the basics right you are in with a chance.

There is nothing better then to fish with a few mates and help the environment at the same time. Plus have a blast sight casting to big fish in shallow water and have them so willing (sometimes) to take the fly.

 

Long casts, tight lines and fast fish
Richard (LIPS) Carter

 

 


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