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DougGrant
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Good to see the "newbies" getting deep into debate.
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RuffJustice
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: |
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I might be missing the point here, but..... I can tell you that if the school shark is on the brink of extinction I will eat my gumboots.
I fished PPB last week and caught 5 40-50cm school sharks in about an hour.
I then fished WPB on Sunday and we caught 15 sharks in total 9 of them school sharks.(was surprised and excited to land a hammerhead too  )
I estimated the schoolies at being 1-2 years of age, they were all above 60cm but all
under 75cm, then again.... I don't know the growth rate of these sharks.
I have also noticed a boom in 7 gill pups in PPB as well..... as far as I can tell: these sharks are FAR from extinct or being a threatened species here in Vic.
Do you guys think the minimum size limit for sharks should ve raised to at least 85 cm and a maximum of 160cm at least for a few years to really beef upsome numbers? I could have kept plenty of gummies the other day but just couldn't bring my self to kill them for the minimal amount of flesh on them.
Meanwhile a mate of mine kept his bag limit of just size gummies and had a nice feed..... |
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RuffJustice
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: |
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| ribbit wrote: |
considering 98% of them manage to bite us off, I would like to know what catch data they are using?
very few anglers can claim to have boated a good schoolie and you will never know what bit you off anyway |
It seems that any data collected is simply indicating that the population of both gummy and school sharks is healthy, sustainable and most probably on the increase. |
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Al -S
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| The last two years have seen school sharks as a very common catch on our trips. Fishing out of the Warrnambool area, i have caught schoolies up to 21kg, but always use wire on the bottom hook and to avoid getting bitten off. |
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Koorilad
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: |
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| DougGrant wrote: |
Good to see the "newbies" getting deep into debate.
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That's what I was thinking
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hookatex
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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Schoolies were hammered in the 40's and 50's. Apparently by the 70's they were pretty scarce, although I am not sure what that means by todays standards.
What I do know is we are lucky to have such a well managed fishery all around. Snapper and gummies are easier to catch now than they were in the 90's, my hat is off to the DPI. |
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TomNincevic
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Don't get me started. DPI's performance is at best is adequate.
DPI's management as recently as mid 1990's saw snapper, gummy and kingfish fisheries in crisis.
Key change was dredging the bay stopped.
As a diver I saw first hand the wholesale destruction of seagrass and benthic habitat, crushed crabs, increased turbidity and the deadzone that was left behind.
If you want to know what happens to a fishery that has continual dredging refer to relevant chapter in The Unnatural History of Fishing, which incidentally is a good read.
PPB's benthic zone is now healthy ( not withstanding sabella worm and pacific seastar) supporting more sealife and hence snapper and different shark fisheries.
Good management refer to Abalone industry which will now take decades to recover. |
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mellul
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craigmack
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps not that relevant to the debate but I fished the Bay of Islands in NZ's North Island and during a hot bite we caught about 30 good snapper and hooked at least that many school sharks...they call em "Tope". Some of these sharks were up to 6th in length and were a pain in the end.
Many of you may not be aware but a huge amount of shark trunks are imported from NZ and sold every day as flake in the Aussie fush and chup shops. Cheaper and more plentiful is my guess, and I suppose that's good for us Aussie fishos and the kiwis couldn't care less for them!!
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