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ironmaiden


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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 3:20 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

JayyyyGee wrote:
Define Racium confused-fish.gif Are the racists a larger group allegley not accepting a smaller or different group

Racists do not prejudice due to the size of the group.

Or are the racits those who encrouching on anothers way of life & not accepting that way of life

That is not racism, it's ignorance

If a stranger tried entering your home when you were out opened fridge ate your food drank your piss then slept in your bed
Would you call that person a goldielocks or would you think of them as criminals confused-fish.gif

That would be assessed on case by case. Was the front door locked? If it was locked current law would say that they entered illegally.
But morally was the person fleeing from certain death? Was the person of sain mind? Was the person a friend or family member?



Answering your Q I feel like a lamb going to slaughter. happy-fish.gif

The definition of racism is many….. This little old forum would be put to sleep. So I’ll condense my 10,000 word definition & meaning of my view on racism. Firstly 2 simple examples.

Example 1 Slavery. This enslavement was accomplished because of the racist belief that Black Africans were less fully human than white Europeans and their descendants.

Example 2 white verses white. English toward Welsh, Scots, Irish. That the English believed they were superior due to their beliefs or traditions in culture & religion. Or Nazi against the Jews

So the meaning of racism as seen by many is a limiting, narrow-minded mentality that a particular race is superior or inferior to another, that a person’s social and moral traits are predetermined by his or her inborn biological characteristics.


To define racism you have to define, what is a race?

A race is a group of people that come from a common background. That group is generally determined based on skin colour. Commonly, but not always, people are categorized into one of five races: White, Black, Latino or Hispanic, Asian, and Indigenous or Native….falling asleep yet or better still gone fishing? wink-fish.gif happy-fish.gif happy-fish.gif

What do I see as common racism particular to this thread and why did I post my insert I hate racism?

I’ve read the arguments about cost to the tax payer and whether it’s seen as legal or illegal. I believe the underlying core issues is:

In the latter half of the 19th century, Darwinism, the decline of Christian belief, and growing immigration were all perceived by many white Westerners as a threat to their cultural control.

Jayygee do you know what Overt racism is? And what subtle racism is?


Something I've learnt is that you don't make innuendo/jokes to persons that you don't really know when it's concerning race, that’s advice for bite me.

I'm not racists I hate all equally laughing-fish.gif laughing-fish.gif

Meow goodnight and Woof happy mutha's day laughing-fish.gif laughing-fish.gif laughing-fish.gif laughing-fish.gif
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fin101


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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that was some time ago, so, what's your point?? I was of the opinion this topic more so related to cost of this whole debacle called an immigration policy. On the subject of racism, it's an overused word in this country by those trying to implement changes that many don't agree with , (another way to discredit them), to gain social or economic benefit. You cannot comment on Europe, not been there???, well I have, and it's a disgrace. You need to go see some of the world, then you will get to see what real racism is.
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I could visit Europe for two weeks and be an expert laughing-fish.gif laughing-fish.gif laughing-fish.gif

No, don't need to travel to see or experience racism.
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ironmaiden


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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morning all happy-fish.gif happy-fish.gif

Go to Europe PFttt why? confused-fish.gif confused-fish.gif

I love my country. I also know that if I want to see racism I just have to go into town....any town anywhere. In fact why go into town? Jump on the PC & read between the lines on open forums.......like this one

Thank truck that there are people who either one don't openly display racism or they truly aren’t racist.
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah! save your money,maybe get that chip off your shoulder. What was the boat point again???
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the old "he doesnt agree with me so he has a chip on his shoulder"

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Wait for it, up next is the

"how long must we pay for the sins of the past, you got the apology'

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shortly followed by

"lucky you werent invaded by others it would have been worse"

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I don't have a chip on my shoulder. I have met many fishnetters, ask around wink-fish.gif

Simple fact is that I just have a different view on this topic than you, nothing more nothing less.

I really dont want this to turn in to a topic on indigenous autralians. we have done that to death.
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JayyyyGee


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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The definition of racism is many…..


Yes it is & No it's not
Unless a person has got a real hatred for a certain race then it's not racium in my book

Sure peeps may refer to a certain race as a bunch of %$^#%#&$ but that's generally spur of the moment comment

In the case of this thread think it's a case of people not liking how these refo's enter our country demand that which is not theres & fleece tax payers funds

That's a far cry from being a racist

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Wow, I could visit Europe for two weeks and be an expert


Yo couz

They wouldn't let you in wearing that loin cloth of yours with no elastic laughing-fish.gif laughing-fish.gif

Europe does have a prob refo's there are refered to as Gypsy's large colonies are found around most cities they live like squatters

But here in oz we treat them like royalty feed clothe them & have to cop the audacious comments from a holes located OS that we dont do our bit
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So to the opening of the thread is there an answer?

And IMO ya can't blow em out of the water.
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No J, we dont treat them royalty at all.

We put them in jail until they are processed and then they come out with welfare payments (so I am told) which we all know people can barely survive on.

Then they are discrimminated against when going for jobs or housing and we dont/wont recognise their previous qualifications. (sometimes for good reason)

If you think forcing people to live in squatts is the answer you are wrong. That creates HUGE problems in regard to health and crime.

'IF' we are going to allow refugees or asylum seekers to live amongst us, we must be prepared to invest in them to make sure they fit in and have the best chance at succeeding. Otherwise its a pointless excercise.

The cost to help them fit in will be far less than if they dont!
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You seem to have used the word We an awfull lot in last reply couz

This thread alone shows very few We's want them here want to have them in our homes

And that attitude is pretty much Aust wide so to appease a very select few such as yourself the rest of us have to pay the cost
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