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mellul


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your keen on multihulls, don't forget to look at a Hydrofield. Excellent stability and a very sweet, dry ride.

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Wildfish1


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Peter35 wrote:
Wildfish1 wrote:

Many of the other boats mentioned (cruise craft, etc) are beautiful and fine rigs but maybe too much bling for what you are after, that's just my opinion.


Bling !! laughing-fish.gif laughing-fish.gif crikey Mick you cannot put a price on beauty.


Pete your CC sure is beautiful. And yesterday I was drooling at the boat show at the quality of stainless work that comes on the cruisecraft boats, where the stainless is done up in Qld. The best in the business IMO.

My problem is I'm a pig when fishing so all the bling will be wasted on me somewhat wink-fish.gif I'll stick to my F21 fishing machine with nice flow coat all round.

Still looking forward to lining you up at Eden again by the way.

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Peter35


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it'll happen sooner or later Mick. I might have to stick on a new 20 inch prop for a bit of extra top end, should do 85km/hr or so.

Anyway I'll be there in March next year during the Eden GFC fishing comp - cabin is booked already, the one you had two years ago on the end of the row. Two boats/four of us going, so as well as kingies at various spots will be out wide if conditions permit. Cant wait now and its still 9 months away ... laughing-fish.gif laughing-fish.gif
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Katoh


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ill throw my 2 bob in. I've owned both!
Firstly you have to go for a ride in both, see what you like and don't just ride you have take the reins, Drive into the sea and out , see how it goes its not the same when your behind the helm. I owned a 5.3 cat no names mentioned, nice riding good at rest but hated it dearly. Sometimes you just want to fish a river or bay, forget your cat! I upgraded to a 6.5m Platety built like a tank and handles like a Porsch compared to the cat, built like a tank and handled like a tanker, uses 1/10 the fuel or less than the cat, is wider, more balanced and fun to be in.
I'm not in your area, nor have I boated in your area, but know not every day produces this huge chop that you have to bang over, My opinion if you need to go from point A to B into a sea in a hurry, cant beat the cat, coming back Ill go just as fast as you if not quicker! and do it for with a tenth of the fuel and I will be dry too.
My comments are made for boats 5-6 meters in length, lets be serious I cant compare my 6.5 to 7m cat but I can easily tow mine.
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John Buoy


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:50 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Katoh wrote:
Ill throw my 2 bob in. I've owned both!
Firstly you have to go for a ride in both, see what you like and don't just ride you have take the reins, Drive into the sea and out , see how it goes its not the same when your behind the helm. I owned a 5.3 cat no names mentioned, nice riding good at rest but hated it dearly. Sometimes you just want to fish a river or bay, forget your cat! I upgraded to a 6.5m Platety built like a tank and handles like a Porsch compared to the cat, built like a tank and handled like a tanker, uses 1/10 the fuel or less than the cat, is wider, more balanced and fun to be in.
I'm not in your area, nor have I boated in your area, but know not every day produces this huge chop that you have to bang over, My opinion if you need to go from point A to B into a sea in a hurry, cant beat the cat, coming back Ill go just as fast as you if not quicker! and do it for with a tenth of the fuel and I will be dry too.
My comments are made for boats 5-6 meters in length, lets be serious I cant compare my 6.5 to 7m cat but I can easily tow mine.

I dont seem to recall any name brand cat in 5.3mts confused-fish.gif
Why did you hate a nice riding good at rest boat confused-fish.gif
Regards Frank happy-fish.gif
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Katoh


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frank
There was a model made in 87 by (MB) plate alloy cat. The problem with the boat was twofold, Firstly I must take same of the blame. When we re-powered the boat we took the motors up to the max HP, but that really screwed up the balance of the boat, I moved what ever I could to other places just trying to get the darn thing to sit right in the water.
The beam was only 2.3 on such a big boat could have been a bit wider, I'm no designer but something just wasn't right. Smaller motors would may have been better, but it wasn't for me and I was not going to shell out another 20k to find out!
One trip to the self and back approx 28Nm from the ramp managed to gobble a massive 300lters of fuel, thats $400 a trip. I like my fishing but cant keep forking that out.
Horses for courses, I will stick to a good mono from now on.
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Snapper Hunter


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katoh.....what have you done! I was just about sold on a cat for my next boat.

So when you upgraded motors, was it sitting to low in the rear? Is that an issue for balance at rest, or were the motors just submerged too far in the water?

It's good to get the different opinions, but also, its a lot to take in. For example, your brand of cat had problems because it was too narrow, but the Noosa cats are prone to flipping because they are apparently too wide.

One thing I can say, I have not heard a bad thing about the original Bruce Harris shark cats.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Snapper Hunter wrote:
I should add:

I know a bloke with an Edencraft 233 and he only uses the boat for shelf runs, never in the bay due to the lack of stability.
So this boat would not be suitable.

I hate my mates Savage Mako with 20 degree deadrise, because it is only a tiny but faster through the big waves, but rocks constantly even on flat fishing days.

I have been told to get a cat, but you rarely see them off Altona so I wounder how they would cope when the bay turns to a washing machine?



Mate you cant go wrong with 20 footer Bruce Harris cat for $$$ .

Or


Go for a long drive to Qld and give Opti $ 300.000 for his 233 and you got your self the biggest gig rig in the country .thats if he lets it go. laughing-fish.gif
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Bornfree1


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Snapper Hunter wrote:
Katoh.....what have you done! I was just about sold on a cat for my next boat.

So when you upgraded motors, was it sitting to low in the rear? Is that an issue for balance at rest, or were the motors just submerged too far in the water?

It's good to get the different opinions, but also, its a lot to take in. For example, your brand of cat had problems because it was too narrow, but the Noosa cats are prone to flipping because they are apparently too wide.One thing I can say, I have not heard a bad thing about the original Bruce Harris shark cats.


Where did you get that info from Snapper Hunter. That is simply not correct.
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Julian1


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

[quote="Snapper Hunter"], but the Noosa cats are prone to flipping because they are apparently too wide.quote]

are you kidding, who the hell told you that confused-fish.gif confused-fish.gif the Noosa's are based on the original Bruce Harris cats, havn't seen too many Noosa's go over of late
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