Zac Pak part 2

[Strongbow]

Been away from this thread a bit

Pretty good of you Defiant to pull back over a previous post and apologise, doesn't happen much around here

Clearly there are a few camps on this thread, people who know individuals, educated supporters both sides (some not so educated it seems) on-lookers/interested observers and stirrers.

Joys of a forum and I guess surprises never cease.

[mellul]

G'day Leon,

No worries at all mate. I was not in a good place Friday, so I'm sorry as well.

You and Changa are far more experienced game anglers then myself, so I would never imply anything like that, hence the turse reply.

I reckon it's time to move on myself. Both lure brands catch fish, and that's the main thing.

Nothing wrong with a bit of passion, especially when it concerns mates

Cheers

Marty
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[Peter Pakula]

As noted my point of view has been summed up to some extent. I don't think anything has been gained or lost.

If you say stuff you should back it up. In evey case I've backed it up.

Yes we won the court case, but this thread isn't about that, nor is it about Mario.

Changa says all lures are copies, but never backed it up.

Said Zacs aren't copies, but how are they not copies? no answer.

Says there's no confusion, but if there wasn't the thread wouldn't have been started in the first place.

Leon infers I did something wrong, says he is happy to say that without saying what, want's us to be mates, but attacks anyone who is seen to back me up ie Mellul. Good he's aplogised.

If you want the harassment to stop between Zac and Pak, get him, help him to do lures that don't look like Pakula's, don't have exactly the same colours, and same names for the same colours s Pakula's then no-one can harass Zac's about anything. As time moves on I'll be changing the look and improving shapes, names will be the same because they are trade marked.

If Zac doesn't change then they'll be like Top Guns, Sure Strikes in NZ, Pecoola in NZ, Bost in USA, and many others, either disappear from the market or forever be known as copies. There's nothing anyone can do to stop that. This has happened to Bart and Joe Yee is almost identical situations.

But for every copy sold you the originator and the angler loose out because developers will develop with every cent they can get their hands on, because that's why they are in the industry.

I like the technology of it all and share it freely when I can. It's very frustrating at the moment because business isn't good and the delay in doing the BTL 2 because I don't have the funds to do it is really eating at me.

What you do with your money is up to you, who you back is up to you.
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[JayyyyyGee]

Think i can give a better summary than that one


Affro David sworn by JayyyyyGee 14th November 2011
Right after breakfast @ the registered offices of The Jumpy Wombat Co


* I original said virtually all lures are copies & i believe that to be a true & accurate statement i said that changa didn't.

[thrillseeker]

[Peter Pakula]

[/quote]Whole senario could've been avoided if you had purchased the co back lock stock & barrel.
Guess the lure of having lures made @ a cheaper price in china was more appealing. [quote]

Jay, I did buy Pakula Tackle back lock stock and barrel. 100% everything.

Mario has never owned anything to do with Pakula Tackle it's products or anything else.

It went 100% from me to John, then 100% from John to Jenny and then 100% back to me from Jenny. In every case that included everything, all IP, technology, molds, masters, and all stock in each transfer.

It took the court case to get mario to return all masters, molds, skirts, machinery, computers etc.
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[thrillseeker]

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[Peter Pakula]

I have no idea who is selling Pakula's anywhere in Australia apart from the ones I've visited on my lecture tours, let alone Ebay. All distribution is handled by Rapala. They have a policy of no web only stores so we can assume they are being sold by or being supplied by brick and mortar stores.

I have certainly seen lures that aren't Pakula's being sold as Pakula's on Ebay, but as they were Pakula's they weren't from a Pakula distributor.
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[baggedout]

Hi Peter, I have a friend who bought dozens and dozens of fluzis and uzis from here http://charkbait.com/clearance.htm just before the sbt season in vic earlier this year, he said it worked out to be about $6.50 per lure inc postage.
He then sold them on ebay during the season at an average of $25 each not including postage, said it paid for a few weekends down at Portland.
Not trying to make a point other than that it annoyed the shit out of me that he could do that, buying them not to save himself a dollar but to make money out of them by ripping other aussies off and tackle shops here losing out at the same time!

[lazyangler]

I turn my back for a few days and all hell breaks out. Pleased to know a poo fight cna happen with out me.

As for Pakulas on Ebay you just pick em up out of dump bins and bung em on the bay. You can make a decent profit some days.

As for copied lure shapes I still dont believe that a small changa in head length or radius of side or other small variation will make a lure catch or not. The inserts cant make much difference as fantastic Pakulas used to have folded piece of glitter tape and were brilliant. A block in them made them better and now scary teeth and stuff make em even better and being hard not soft has improved em as well.

How good they are depends on who uses and markets them. Peter has done a good job at that and no one can deny that. If this thread has been positive or negative marketting is anyones guess.
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