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Kerry


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

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Local marine rescue might be the ones answering some calls (in some cases) but they have absolutely no authority to make such comment


Get used to it you wally
You'll be hearing alot more of it

It's 2012 not 1970


2012 or 1970 doesn't change the need for volunteers to be competent and provide the boating public with correct and factual information.
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Hydro_boy


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Kerry wrote:
JayyyyGee wrote:
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Local marine rescue might be the ones answering some calls (in some cases) but they have absolutely no authority to make such comment


Get used to it you wally
You'll be hearing alot more of it

It's 2012 not 1970


2012 or 1970 doesn't change the need for volunteers to be competent and provide the boating public with correct and factual information.


From what I have seen kerry you have insulted the majority of the boating public, and also the VHF volunteers.....so who is in your league then? Do you ever feel that you are in fact the odd one out confused-fish.gif Did you get picked last for the school sports laughing-fish.gif Is that what this is all about....revenge unhappy-fish.gif
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Kerry


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Hydro_boy wrote:
Kerry wrote:
JayyyyGee wrote:
Quote:
Local marine rescue might be the ones answering some calls (in some cases) but they have absolutely no authority to make such comment


Get used to it you wally
You'll be hearing alot more of it

It's 2012 not 1970


2012 or 1970 doesn't change the need for volunteers to be competent and provide the boating public with correct and factual information.


From what I have seen kerry you have insulted the majority of the boating public, and also the VHF volunteers.....so who is in your league then? Do you ever feel that you are in fact the odd one out confused-fish.gif Did you get picked last for the school sports laughing-fish.gif Is that what this is all about....revenge unhappy-fish.gif


All you have to worry about boy is justifying your comments and in the process try and explain why you expect and exemption? So stop stalling and attempt to justify yourself laughing-fish.gif I await with much anticipation of any intelligent reply in regard the context of the actual discussion.
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Hydro_boy


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some extracts from the ACMA website:
Is it necessary for all operators of VHF marine radios to hold a Certificate of Proficiency?
To what extent do mandatory Certificates of Proficiency contribute to safety at sea for recreational VHF marine radio users?
Would it be appropriate to remove the requirement for a Certificate of Proficiency for marine radios on recreational vessels that are being used for limited purposes, such as operating in protected waters?

The ACMA could amend the current legislative framework to permit unqualified operators to use a VHF marine radio for the safety purpose of logging and cancelling trip reports. It could also amend the framework to entirely remove the requirement for vessels that are voluntarily fitted with VHF marine radios to be operated by qualified operators. This would be consistent with arrangements in the US—although the US Coast Guard’s concerns may mean that it is undesirable to remove all avenues of providing education to facilitate competence in the use of marine radio equipment.

Alternatively, the legislative framework could be amended to operate similarly to that of the UK: that is, to allow recreational and other voluntarily fitted vessels to carry VHF marine radio equipment to receive safety warnings and call for assistance without carrying a qualified marine radio operator.

The ACMA is able to remove or reduce the mandatory nature of marine radio operator qualifications. It is recognised that any such change would need to take account of the safety needs of the marine community and be consistent with Australia’s international obligations.

So dear Kerry...before you start mouthing off that you know everything about VHF....you would be advised to freshen up on your knowledge bank as it would seem the ACMA is considering removing the licence for recreational use.....so do I hear an apology to the the nice volunteer you insulted.....I doubt it !!!

Based on prior posts...I would suggest that your next post will now insult the ability of the ACMA.....
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Kerry


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could do this, could do that, could you something else, well it hasn't happened has it boy? Learn to live with what currently is in place as things won't change overnight.

Simple question? Do you believe you should be exempted from having to hold a MROCP? Yes or No?
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Rumpus


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe call sign was the wrong word...

its a number ie, botany bay might be BB111, you call this number in and give your depart and return times and all the info like car, phones, ramps etc are listed insted of having to transmit all the info. They already have it on file...
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Kerry


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Hydro_boy wrote:

Some extracts from the ACMA website:
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Based on prior posts...I would suggest that your next post will now insult the ability of the ACMA.....
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Since you have a selective habit of quoting ACMA what I am going to suggest to you before you continue on with your p... poor attitude and misconceptions is study closely the following links and especially the responses, the vast majority of responses you will obviously dislike and avoid with much distaste as they don't support your argument in any way shape or form.


http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD/pc=PC_311900

http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD/pc=PC_312390
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JayyyyGee


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep being the wally kerry
Keep digging up literature written in or pre 1979 laughing-fish.gif laughing-fish.gif
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frozenpod


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Removing VHF liciences has been talked about for quite sometime and IMO it is only a matter of time before it happens.

I am not 100% this is the right thing to do as when AM lost the licencing requirement the standard of radio talk dropped significantly. In saying that there already is a pile of idiots already on VHF oh clearly either don't have liciences or know how to use there radio properly. In which case it wont make a great deal of difference.
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Kerry


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't be so sure it is the right or best thing to do and yes it has been going around in circles for quite some time and the vast majority of the phase 1 & 2 submisions are against removing the requirement for rec users.

Yes the lesson learnt with dropping the standard of 27mz is certainly something that VHF can do totally without.

Probably several of the most frequently raised issues in those submissions were the lack of education re the requirements from the boat dealer installing the radio, the boat dealer giving the buyer incorrect and misleading infomation and the user who then doesn't know any better as well as the lack of enforcement by ACMA even though there is a reported non-compliance and lack of radio discipline.

Removing reuqirements for rec users to run rampant on VHF is not a consideration when national and international considerations have to given first priority in conjunction with the IMO resolutions that overide even the ACMA authority.

Another point often raised in the submissions is the opportunity to actually enhance marine radio communications and mandate increased competencies. Yes that does say increased competencies.

I say bring it on cool-fish.gif
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