Well it's good to see that some still sledge away without knowing the facts. Lets can a manufacturer, must something wrong with the design, the boat etc. Great to see this moronic comments without knowing THE FACTS.
If the thread is correct larger boats turned back, because it was unsafe! If this was the case why is the boat at fault? Surely it is the skipper who is at fault, not boat or its design. There is no way any designer can account for an owners stupidity if that was in fact the case. If it was it would mean that every vehicle accident is the the manufacturers fault. Hardly the case I would think.
So before all the "know it alls" cast their dispersions on any particular manufacturer for any reason, why not just for once try and actually learn the truth about what really actually happened before gobbing off.
That's my rant. Just sick of the idiots opening their mouths without putting their brain into gear.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:40 am Post subject: Re:
thewalrus wrote:
Well it's good to see that some still sledge away without knowing the facts. Lets can a manufacturer, must something wrong with the design, the boat etc. Great to see this moronic comments without knowing THE FACTS.
If the thread is correct larger boats turned back, because it was unsafe! If this was the case why is the boat at fault? Surely it is the skipper who is at fault, not boat or its design. There is no way any designer can account for an owners stupidity if that was in fact the case. If it was it would mean that every vehicle accident is the the manufacturers fault. Hardly the case I would think.
So before all the "know it alls" cast their dispersions on any particular manufacturer for any reason, why not just for once try and actually learn the truth about what really actually happened before gobbing off.
That's my rant. Just sick of the idiots opening their mouths without putting their brain into gear.
This is now 2 events where the same model boats has overturned. Not a sledge fest or a dig or anything just the facts! Clearly it needs looking into. There would be many more EC's out there and a few Cootas too that go out in bad conditions yet I've never heard of them overturning. Once could be driver error but twice and the boat design needs looking at to ask why are they rolling over when others aren't. Fair enough question yes? If I was the builder I would be asking myself that question for sure.
i was in a comp last month ,25knt 3m seas.id never go out in that but my crew were keen and we had already paid entry .
by 9 oclock the wind was really strong ,is was so rough i couldnt troll into the waves ,the waves were breaking into my clears and on top of my t top,side on i was copping green over the side,the engines were spending more time under the water than above,by 1 oclock i decided id had enough of a hammering and started to head home,i had to quater the waves to try and not take as much green water ,i could only do 11knts,waves broke over the bow pushing the boat sideways,as we traveled up the face of the waves we had to punch through a meter of white water,i even got the props out a couple of times falling off the backs of the waves they were that steep,i wasnt scared and the boat felt solid ,but the hairs on the back of my head were standing up.it could of been easy to loose the boat to a wave that day,so seeing the forecast these guys were out in, in a slightly smaller boat than mine,what were they thinking.
i learnt my lesson that day,anything over 15kt i stay home.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:56 am Post subject: Re:
bear1 wrote:
Thirty knot winds and a 4 metre sea - bloke shouldn't have been there in any trailerable boat - and that's that!
X 2!!!
While he had the weather on the nose, going out, he would have been reasonably safe, but,,,, when he turned to come home with a following sea trying to roll him down the face of every wave, been there, done that,
worst drive home I've ever experienced, had to get everyone to lay on the floor to stop them from swinging on the rocket launcher as they tried to hold on.
I really doubt that the boat design would have been at fault, just inexperience.
2 hours is unacceptable, there was a couple of cases in Tassie where the epirb signal was ignored.
I'm intrigued that the "cheaper" epirbs have a slower or lower signal????, what they don't have, is GPS positioning to narrow the search,
but the 406's give a much more accurate signal and when the false alarm period elapses, that chopper should have been dispatched in minutes.
There would be many more EC's out there and a few Cootas too that go out in bad conditions yet I've never heard of them overturning
Well maybe fools weren't driving those boats did that ever occur to you
Dont blame the equipment if it's misused
5 on board where was he coming from blame gillard
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In my life I have been in 3 situations on the water that I regretted, two were a bit out of my control as I was on someone else's boat and I was not in command.
Aa2012, you raise a good point but on the other hand who knows\who can say whether an Edencraft, formula, Couta, Haines etc etc would have rolled had it been the only boat out there at that precise moment? Could be a bad coincidence for Evolution.
Point is they should not have been out there. I read a statement by a some charter skipper on one of the Newcastle papers, he headed half way out and turned around and headed back, he had a bigger boat can't remember the side, but he was amazed when he saw the Evo passing them on the way out when they were heading in.
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or lower signal????, what they don't have, is GPS positioning to narrow the search,