aa2012 from memory the boat at patto had 2 adults a one child, hardly overloaded. Have you ever considered that maybe driver error one, and a really big wave two had something to do with it? We sometimes look into these things harder then we have too. MrHobie all twin rig boats can be somewhat more tricky to drive and when you have twin 150's on the back then driven incorrectly you can get into trouble. I have owned a few twin riggs but cant say ive tried to hard to flip one, i prefer to stay on top of the water cheers Phil. _________________ www.portphillipboatingcentre.com.au
There is an interesting website for the investigation of Victorian Marine Incidents on the Department of Transport website. The collision between the police boat and a rec boat at Carrum resulted in a 47 page report and is an interesting read and goes to show that a proper full and thorough investigation can put to rest any doubt as to the cause of an accident:
As a police boat was involved in this one such an investigation was always going to happen. Even in the original Evo topic PMmarine stated in a post that they did not know how the accident occurred and pointed at possible driver error or equipment failure and highlighted that an investigation was underway. You would think that in a case where a child blacks out and is trapped under an overturned boat at a demo day this would be serious enough accident for such an investigation. It might be happening and the results of an investigation maybe obvious but the fact that nothing has been said about it or released only feeds the fire of heresay and bull dust.
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:23 pm Post subject: Re:
P.P.B.C. wrote:
So what you are saying that 3 people is to many what with regards to weight?
Correct.
I have been trying to eyeball a current 650 although have not found one in a dealers yard anywhere in Australia. The ABP for 650's that I have seen (several yr old model) lists the following:
Max hp 300
Max pax 6 @ 480kg
Max total (persons, gear, engines) 600kg
Twin 115 etecs weigh 145kg ea so 290kg
Twin Batteries, oil bottles, controls and looms 100kg
600-390 = 210kg MAX load capacity
And if twin 150 etecs take another 50kg off the usable load and you are down to 160kg MAX load capacity. No way you can take 5 guys aboard. 2 solid blokes plus gear and she's overweight.
I think the low capacity numbers if they aren't an error may be due to the fact that the hull weighs 1700kg, plus has a high floor for its self draining deck potentially raising the CG. Solid hardtop also potentially adds to the problem.
As a comparison, a Caribbean 27 runabout at 1.73m longer and 0.71m wider is only 200kg heavier.
Where did you see, Max total (persons, gear, engines) 600kg????? Every hin plate i have seen has a max persons and weight and maybe a max transom weight but never Max total (persons, gear, engines). Please explain. _________________ www.portphillipboatingcentre.com.au
Yes, it was correct. I went and looked around JV the other day and took pics of ABP's on various boats. When I work out how to get them out of my phone and upload onto screen I will do so. I can assure you that for most outboard powered boats the bottom line of the ABP shows in picture diagrams:
Max Persons+gear+engine/s
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MrHobie all twin rig boats can be somewhat more tricky to drive and when you have twin 150's on the back then driven incorrectly you can get into trouble. I have owned a few twin riggs but cant say ive tried to hard to flip one, i prefer to stay on top of the water 
cheers Phil.
