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bwana


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Invited as a representative of the Victorian Fishing Charter Association Seacarp.

Dont think last season was a failed spawn either, with a one year+ - life cycle that would have limited numbers this season . Especially considering squid lay in the same general area that they themselves where hatched(like Salmonoids) and why you get them on the very same marks each season.

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Koorilad


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When are the best months to target squid in Queenscliffe?

I hear (on very good authority) that we have 4 squid 'runs' per year, when are they?
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bwana


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Late Winter to mid spring traditionally Kel.

about atm but not as many crocs.

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Fishinthere


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

bwana wrote:
Fishinthere, my answer was based on information supplied by scientists at a squid forum held at DPI 2 years ago that I was invited to,.and is based on southern calamari, other squid obviously can vary ie giant squid.

Regards John


No worries, I wasn't debating your age and actually hadn't seen your post. 340 or 291 whichever is right they are to all intents and purposes the same. And of course the oldest recorded isn't necessarily the oldest they get! So I think when you say 1 yr +/-, that's surely as accurate as you can be.

The main thing is it's around one year, not two or three years as many would believe. And i suppose that it means when you catch those little bait size ones they are really quite young. Other thing that it means is that to get to sustain the growth rates to get as big as they do, they must feed like crazy. No wonder when thay are on they really are on.
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Koorilad


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks John.

They grow mega quick!

Must be a shit life when EVERYTHING wants to eat you!
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bwana


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All cool Fishinthere, cool-fish.gif

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ecofreak


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:43 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Fishinthere wrote:
bwana wrote:
Fishinthere, my answer was based on information supplied by scientists at a squid forum held at DPI 2 years ago that I was invited to,.and is based on southern calamari, other squid obviously can vary ie giant squid.

Regards John


No worries, I wasn't debating your age and actually hadn't seen your post. 340 or 291 whichever is right they are to all intents and purposes the same. And of course the oldest recorded isn't necessarily the oldest they get! So I think when you say 1 yr +/-, that's surely as accurate as you can be.

The main thing is it's around one year, not two or three years as many would believe. And i suppose that it means when you catch those little bait size ones they are really quite young. Other thing that it means is that to get to sustain the growth rates to get as big as they do, they must feed like crazy. No wonder when thay are on they really are on.


Actually you are both right with the 340 to 290 days.

The female normally lives less than the males, males spawn less than the female's and after a spawn the females are so exhausted they simply can not get enough food/energy to continue living so the start to eat them selve's. The males will stick around approx 4-6 weeks longer attempting to look after an egg cluster, again with the problem of staying in one place they will struggle to get enough food to survive and will simply die.

The small ones you get for baits are actually not that young, a squid will double its body weight every 4-6 weeks, that said a 300g squid will be 600g in that same time period. Most of the growth occurs in the last 3 months of its life so the slow growth period is from 1g through to 100g.

The reason we have squid all year round with the life span being less than on eyear is because unlike any where else in the world we have more than one spawn and in Victoria we have up to 6 spawns a year hence why we have such variances in size, in places like Asia the water temp changes are more dramatic leaving the squid to spawn once only and the size of the squid will always depend on the time in the season.

Victoria Australia is world renowned as the greatest squid fishery in the world and this has been conveyed by many I have taken squid fishing from overseas, more and more people are coming to Melbourne from overseas with the sole reason for the trip to catch squid.
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seacarp 1


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

geez i just learnt somthing
doesnt happen often
i have some input also
theres 20 less squid swimming around off rye
i will be eating those for dinner along with my fresh scallops
does anyone know how many species off squid in victoria /australia
i can only think of 2 then total 4 love to know
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