Yes, i'm also increasingly dissapointed with this government on one hand announcing the largest marine park and in the next breath give permission to the largest super trawler in the world, coming from overseas plunder baitfish on the australian eastcoast and selling them overseas. The issue in PPB i wasen't aware of until just now when i read your thread Geoff. First off all good on ya for having a go and please don't give up, we all depend on guys like you. I have one question, a couple of days ago i was made aware of our new peak body ARFF Australian Recreational Fishing Foundation and i put up a post in the Fish Oz scene as i was pretty excited to hear about us getting united at last, however i'm still waiting for a reply from anyone. Is ARFF just a pipe dream and will end in the usual bickering or is this something to get excited about and we can actually approach them with our concerns such as this?
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Geoff as I stated earlier there is only 40 odd licences in PPB. Westernport netting closure had nothing to do with fish stocks or sustainability. It was a pollitical decision to gain a few extra votes. There was only ever 4 or 5 netters working the area which would of had bugger all impact on fish stocks. As far as I know 3 of them accepted the buyout and 2 came over to PPB which their licence entitles them to do. SOME of the recreational sector need to pull the heads out of the sand and stop blaming the pros every time the fish go off. They also need to accept the PROVEN FACTS that the recreational sectors catch is alot higher than the commercial catch in PPB. Also need to they need to accept the fact that fishing is seasonal good and bad. Cheers Steve
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:16 pm Post subject: Re:
boarfish wrote:
Geoff as I stated earlier there is only 40 odd licences in PPB. Westernport netting closure had nothing to do with fish stocks or sustainability. It was a pollitical decision to gain a few extra votes. There was only ever 4 or 5 netters working the area which would of had bugger all impact on fish stocks. As far as I know 3 of them accepted the buyout and 2 came over to PPB which their licence entitles them to do. SOME of the recreational sector need to pull the heads out of the sand and stop blaming the pros every time the fish go off. They also need to accept the PROVEN FACTS that the recreational sectors catch is alot higher than the commercial catch in PPB. Also need to they need to accept the fact that fishing is seasonal good and bad. Cheers Steve
maybe you can show us all some Statistics that you talk of.i for one would be very interested to see.
you seem very knowledgable steve,so just out of curiousity how many tonnes of whiting would one boat pull out in one week if he was netting every night[8pm through till 5am the next morning] at either kirks or avalon in their peek times.now the peek times i talk of is jan and feb for kirks and april and may for avalon.
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cheers mick[stesslboy]
I'd personally like to thank boarfish/commrec1/steve for sticking his neck out and entering the discussion. I've personally chatted to a bloke who has worked on many different pro boats and it really is an eye opener to someone like me and i'd guess to a lot of you guys if you ever got the chance
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:18 am Post subject: Re:
[quote="boarfish"]Geoff as I stated earlier there is only 40 odd licences in PPB. Westernport netting closure had nothing to do with fish stocks or sustainability. It was a pollitical decision to gain a few extra votes. There was only ever 4 or 5 netters working the area which would of had bugger all impact on fish stocks. As far as I know 3 of them accepted the buyout and 2 came over to PPB which their licence entitles them to do. SOME of the recreational sector need to pull the heads out of the sand and stop blaming the pros every time the fish go off. They also need to accept the PROVEN FACTS that the recreational sectors catch is alot higher than the commercial catch in PPB. Also need to they need to accept the fact that fishing is seasonal good and bad. Cheers Steve[/quote]
I would quite happy to answer anyones genuine concerns about netting becuase I get sick of hearing all the crap that go's around about1 how the pros are doing this and the pros are doing that and thats why there are no fish. Personally for me and most of the other guys it's been a very ordinary season and Mick if I got 1 ton in a week I would be very happy. Last month I had about 800 kg of whiting for the month. I fish 3 days a week, thats roughly 12 days for the month. Do the math it's not that flash. Cheers Steve
yay a voice from the dark side the proffeshional fisherman
boarfish/steve
i was wondering if youve noticed larger fish than normal in the bay in the last ten years i believe that the averag whiting has gone from 27 to say 30cm to nowadays 35 to 45 cm im on the eastern side of the bay i dont fish north or west
and what is the largest whiting youve taken /seen
cheers
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:24 pm Post subject: Re:
boarfish wrote:
I would quite happy to answer anyones genuine concerns about netting becuase I get sick of hearing all the crap that go's around about1 how the pros are doing this and the pros are doing that and thats why there are no fish. Personally for me and most of the other guys it's been a very ordinary season and Mick if I got 1 ton in a week I would be very happy. Last month I had about 800 kg of whiting for the month. I fish 3 days a week, thats roughly 12 days for the month. Do the math it's not that flash. Cheers Steve
unfortunately mate you have failed to put my mind at ease concerning the devestation[raping] netting has on the bay[numbers of fish taken etc] so i will continue to have reservations on you blokes eventhough your numbers of fish taken and number of times you fish do seem acceptable.its the guys that drive the f100's or f150's that net daily down our way really concern me with what sort of numbers are taken.as you've said previously"not everyone does the correct thing" or something like that.
but thanks or trying.
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cheers mick[stesslboy]
Seacarp I can't really help you there as I don't fish on the eastern side of the bay. I mainly fish from werribee to portarlington and at this time of the year we normally get a mixture of 50% large to 50% small. At the moment we're getting 80% large to 20% small which is a bit of a concern. But in saying that a mate of mine has been hooking plenty of smaller fish at st leonards. As for the size of the whiting I really don't take that much notice but there definatelly are some nice fish out there. cheers steve.
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:59 pm Post subject: Re:
boarfish wrote:
Geoff as I stated earlier there is only 40 odd licences in PPB. Westernport netting closure had nothing to do with fish stocks or sustainability. It was a pollitical decision to gain a few extra votes. There was only ever 4 or 5 netters working the area which would of had bugger all impact on fish stocks. As far as I know 3 of them accepted the buyout and 2 came over to PPB which their licence entitles them to do. SOME of the recreational sector need to pull the heads out of the sand and stop blaming the pros every time the fish go off. They also need to accept the PROVEN FACTS that the recreational sectors catch is alot higher than the commercial catch in PPB. Also need to they need to accept the fact that fishing is seasonal good and bad. Cheers Steve
Boarfish:
I think you are missing the point.
My concerns are with fisheries managment for not properly addressing concerns raised by their largest and most economically important group, namely us" We recreational fishermen.
If you look back through this thread I have never once attacked the commercials and their wholesale fish harvesting operations.
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