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cschintler
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 Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:38 pm Post subject: Land Based Limits |
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Do you think there should be different limits for land based fishermen from piers and rocks as opposed to boats?
I feel that they are mainly taking the fish for a feed and they are unlikely to be the ones taking above limits of large fish and selling them. |
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crozz001
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No I don't think so.
Limits appy across the board so there is no reason to change the current system.
I don't see how you conclude that boaters don't keep fish for a meal, and jetty people do, please expain this a little more.
People aint stupid and as soon as you make it more viable to fish landbased then the fish floggers will just drop them off onto the local jetty.
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shanej
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no.
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cschintler
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crozz001
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No I don't think so.
Limits appy across the board so there is no reason to change the current system.
I don't see how you conclude that boaters don't keep fish for a meal, and jetty people do, please expain this a little more.
People aint stupid and as soon as you make it more viable to fish landbased then the fish floggers will just drop them off onto the local jetty |
Cross001 What I said is a lot different than you stated, I have quoted it below so that you can read it again.
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| I feel that they are mainly taking the fish for a feed and they are unlikely to be the ones taking above limits of large fish and selling them. |
But to answer your question the reason that a boater is more likely to engage in this activity is due to.
They have more opportunity to take bigger fish.
They have more opportunity to take larger quantity of fish.
They have higher expenses to offset.
They are isolated while out fishing and can hide the catch.
Some people are greedy.
It is factual that both landbased & boaters engage in the activity and it would be interesting to see if my thoughts are correct from the fisheries own database and I quite think it would be.
From my observations at the local rocks and piers they land base struggle to get the length and most of them are just under. From my observations also probably 1 in 50 throw them back so they are keeping them anyway.
Personally I think because they should reduce size for some species for land based but keep the limits in tact. Its almost like a handicap system. And also take into consideration the kids fishing from the piers.
Its almost like a handicap system. I saw last yesterday about 20 pinkies from people that did throw them back floating upside down, and rather keeping on fishing all day they could of had their bag and gone home.
Not sure if this is in place anywhere in the world where land different than boat. |
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cschintler
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Not a man of many words. I would be interested in understanding how you came to the conclusion of 'no' and any thoughts you had on the matter.
The size limits are only getting bigger and each time reduce the chance of a land based of getting a legal fish.
Let me answer the question that I think will be asked did I report the taking of illegal fish being taken (by the mainly old fishermen and kids) The answer was no and am I likely to report them the answer is no. Same as I dont go and report every guy speeding past me. I would lead a pretty uneventful life if I went and reported everyone. |
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calamatta
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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no keep the limits the same for boaties and lb .. im soley lb and i reckon i catch more size fish than not . if you seem to struggle to get a size fish try differrent locations or time of day. or better yet big baits and hooks , sure you will get those smaller fish pickin your baits but you wont hook them  . you will also find that most people who catch and keep undersize fish proberley need to be educated as to whats right and wrong. |
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crozz001
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I truely find your statement baffling, just because we own boat is no better an excuse to imply we break the law, just as saying that if we own a V8 we must be breaking the speed limit.
I have spent approx 50% of my fishing life sitting on jetties and river banks and can assure you that there are just as many offenders within the landbase fraternity as boaters.
From my years fishing landbase I rarely had trouble bagging a meal of legal sized fish, this is why I feel that the system we currently go by is working.
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FireGod
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Stay the same.
From experience, I have had bigger hauls in size and number, from land then afloat.
There's an old saying they used to hit us with in the Army when it came to tucker, 'take what you want, eat what you take'.
It basically meant you had to watch the waste. I practise this when fishing.
I stick to the size and bag limts first and foremost. Then I consider what I want. Many more fish get returned then I take home. And those that come home don't go to waste.
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cschintler
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I truely find your statement baffling, just because we own boat is no better an excuse to imply we break the law, just as saying that if we own a V8 we must be breaking the speed limit.
I have spent approx 50% of my fishing life sitting on jetties and river banks and can assure you that there are just as many offenders within the landbase fraternity as boaters.
From my years fishing landbase I rarely had trouble bagging a meal of legal sized fish, this is why I feel that the system we currently go by is working. |
Happy to expand the statement.
Those using there recreational fishing licence for commercial reasons, even if its just to offset the fuel to promote their hobby. The majority of these will be fishermen from a boat. I am not and have not said what you are implying crozz001 that all boaters are using fish for commercial enterprise as I am also a boater and land based.
I also agree with the other statement that often you catch larger from land based and I find that true for many species (trout, barra, cod, yellas etc etc) but I also find that it is not true for other species where land base is at a disadvantage.
I also agree that any changes have to have careful consideration to ensure that people do not take advantage.
One thing for certain is that fishing regulations will not stay the same as has been suggested in the thread. |
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crozz001
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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I would of thought that no more explanation would be required, if a person is going to break the law then they will do so if in a boat, yak or on land.
For you to suggest that there should be more lenient restrictions for landbased anglers implies to me that you feel that they are some how more honest and less likely to offend or you feel that they are struggling to find a meal and deserve easier limits.
I totaly reject the notion that any group is at a disadvantage and deserve a reduction to the current limits
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